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    From Amessyroom@VERT/TL-QWK to All on Sunday, February 23, 2025 15:37:43
    How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

    Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to multiple access under the same account ?

    I've noticed times, when I read messages and I come back a day or two later, and the pointer has fallen back to messages I have read.

    Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Amessyroom on Sunday, February 23, 2025 21:07:54
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

    How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

    Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to multiple

    it fucks up for me if i lost my connection.
    what problems are you having?
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Amessyroom on Sunday, February 23, 2025 20:09:39
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

    How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

    Message pointers are saved when a user logs-off, disconnects, or uses the '&W' command to save them while logged-on.

    Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to multiple access under the same account ?

    The pointers are read during logon and kept in memory until log-off/disconnect. A second login can use the '&R' command to reload the message pointers from disk if they know the other session has read some messages. The last one to log-off/disconnect will have *their* message pointers saved, but only for the sub-boards they actually read messages in.

    I've noticed times, when I read messages and I come back a day or two later, and the pointer has fallen back to messages I have read.

    If you're logging into the terminal server concurrently with the same account, that could explain that.

    Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?

    I think so.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sunday, February 23, 2025 23:29:05
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 08:09 pm

    '&W' command to save them while logged-on.



    oh i didnt know about that. is that documented or is it in one of the whatsnew files?
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sunday, February 23, 2025 22:53:41
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Feb 23 2025 11:29 pm

    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 08:09 pm

    '&W' command to save them while logged-on.



    oh i didnt know about that. is that documented or is it in one of the whatsnew files?

    It's on the '&' menu in the default command shell:

    ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
    ³ Message Scan Configuration ³
    ÀÄßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßÙÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜ
    Û N Areas to scan for new messages ßÛ
    Û S Areas to scan for your messages Û
    Û P Set new-scan pointers Û
    Û I Reinitialize new-scan pointers Û
    Û R Reload new-scan config & pointers Û
    Û W Save new-scan config & pointers Û
    Û²ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄIJÛ
    Û Q Quit to Main/Message menu Û
    ÛÛÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÛÛ

    in v320_new.txt:
    o New stock JavaScript modules:
    - msgscancfg.js and filescancfg.js
    Replaces logic previously copy/pasted into multiple Baja command shells

    and in the Git commit log: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/bb5b9d869
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Amessyroom on Monday, February 24, 2025 10:14:33
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

    Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?

    DDMsgReader is using the same pointers (as far as I know) and should behave the same.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Sunday, February 23, 2025 08:53:41
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    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Feb 23 2025 11:29 pm

    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 08:09 pm

    '&W' command to save them while logged-on.



    oh i didnt know about that. is that documented or is it in one of the whatsnew files?

    It's on the '&' menu in the default command shell:

    ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
    ³ Message Scan Configuration ³
    ÀÄßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßÙÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜ
    Û N Areas to scan for new messages ßÛ
    Û S Areas to scan for your messages Û
    Û P Set new-scan pointers Û
    Û I Reinitialize new-scan pointers Û
    Û R Reload new-scan config & pointers Û
    Û W Save new-scan config & pointers Û
    Û²ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄIJÛ
    Û Q Quit to Main/Message menu Û
    ÛÛÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÛÛ

    in v320_new.txt:
    o New stock JavaScript modules:
    - msgscancfg.js and filescancfg.js
    Replaces logic previously copy/pasted into multiple Baja command shells

    and in the Git commit log: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/bb5b9d869
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